A Manual Of Catholic Theology - Wilhelm & Scannell
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 A Manual Of Catholic Theology - Wilhelm & Scannell
http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... ll_01.htmlAnybody who has a copy of this book and wishes to contribute to scanning and OCRing the text, please contact me. UPDATE - March 2008 - Entire book now online - http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... index.html
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John Lane
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 Re: A Manual Of Catholic Theology - Wilhelm & Scannell
A second lengthy section has now been published. http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... ll_02.html
Please note that for anybody wishing to understand the kinds of issues involved in the "sede vacante" thesis there is no alternative to studying a theology manual of this kind. None. Which is why we are re-publishing this particular manual.
Special credit for the first person to spot the complete proof (in a single word) that this work was oringinally written by a German. 
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John Lane
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Chapter III (on Holy Writ) has now been added. (And nobody has yet won the Special Credit for spotting the proof that this was originally written by a German, so get reading, my friends.)
http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... ll_03.html
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John Lane
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And two sections in one day, here is Chapter IV - on Tradition, no less!
http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... ll_04.html
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:06 pm |
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eliz carroll
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Is it "Dogmatik"? 
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John Lane
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eliz carroll wrote: Is it "Dogmatik"? 
No, that's too much of a giveaway - "Dogmatik" is actually a German word. You are looking for a word you will know came from a German, even though it is not a German word. 
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Robert Bastaja
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plenipotentiary 
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John Lane
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Robert Bastaja wrote: plenipotentiary 
No. When you see it, you will just know. 
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Crazy Cat
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 The Word
Triunity !?
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Geoff Tribbe
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I think I know what it is, but this is probably like those cereal sweepstakes--one isn't eligible for prizes if one is affiliated with the corporate structure. 
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John Lane
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 Re: The Word
Crazy Cat wrote: Triunity !?
No, but yes, in that it isn't the one I had in mind, but it had to have come from a German, didn't it? When I was correcting the scans I checked that three times.
OK, so special credit to you. But the big one is still to be identified. 
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Crazy Cat
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This is a great strategy to get people to read the book....but you knew that would happen didn't you?
Thanks for posting this great book.
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John Lane
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Crazy Cat
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 Re: The Word
John Lane wrote: But the big one is still to be identified. 
It's GOT to be ratiocination
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John Lane
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 Re: The Word
Crazy Cat wrote: It's GOT to be ratiocination
No. 
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Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:58 am |
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John Lane
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 Part VI - Faith
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http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... ll_07.html
This section is on Faith and Understanding. An absolute gem.
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:59 am |
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The section on Faith and Understanding IS "an absolute gem". I humbly pray for these perfect thoughts to be burned into my pathetic mind. May God the Father bless you for generously providing this, and for being such a "good example" of one who has taken these words to heart, Mr. Lane and co. Am I on the correct path if I begin by saying, "Here are my instructions for learning how to think"? Thank you.
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John Lane
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eliz carroll wrote: The section on Faith and Understanding IS "an absolute gem". I humbly pray for these perfect thoughts to be burned into my pathetic mind. You just made the whole effort worthwhile.  eliz carroll wrote: Am I on the correct path if I begin by saying, "Here are my instructions for learning how to think"? Thank you.
Thank you. Yes, that is the right attitude. If we humbly offer our intellects to Holy Mother Church we will not only give God the honour which is His due, but we will begin to think like Him, and thus become more like to Him in our thoughts and our actions, which will give us interior peace - a true serenity of mind and heart - and a burning charity for Him and for His creatures, and merit for eternity as well. What's to lose? God is good.
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John Lane
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 Book II - God
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John Lane
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Quote: More than any other study should that of theology be accompanied by pious meditation and humble prayer.
Rev. Joseph Pohle, PhD., D.D., God, His Knowability, Essence, and Attributes, A Dogmatic Treatise, Adapted and Edited by Arthur Preuss, Herder, St. Louis, Mo., and London, 1952, p.6.
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veiledwoman
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I'm thirsty for more...
parlance? appertains? centre?
maybe we need another hint....
thank you for all you do
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John Lane
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veiledwoman wrote: I'm thirsty for more... So am I. I've been too busy! veiledwoman wrote: parlance? appertains? centre?
maybe we need another hint....
thank you for all you do
No worries. No, none of the above. A hint? Coleridge popularised (insofar as one could popularise such a thing!) in English this product of over-active Germanic scholarship. 
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veiledwoman
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Ontologism 
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veiledwoman wrote: Ontologism 
No. 
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veiledwoman
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positive theology
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John Lane
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veiledwoman wrote: positive theology
No. 
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veiledwoman
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 i will find it...
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John Lane
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 THE ESSENCE AND ATTRIBUTES OF GOD, CONSIDERED GENERALLY.
THE ESSENCE AND ATTRIBUTES OF GOD, CONSIDERED GENERALLY.
This one also is an absolute gem.
http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... ll_09.html
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John Lane
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 THE NEGATIVE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD.
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 THE POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD.
THE POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD.
http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/wilhe ... ll_11.html
Some passages in this are simply awe-inspiring.
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veiledwoman
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Scheeben? 
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John Lane
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veiledwoman wrote: Scheeben? 
You'll spot it. Another hint - it's a very long word you almost certainly won't have seen before.
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Gratias
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plenipotentiary--
from the German word Bevollmächtigtes
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John Lane
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Gratias wrote: plenipotentiary-- from the German word Bevollmächtigtes
Is that originally from the German? (It looks to me to be a direct import from Latin.) But no, that's not it anyway. 
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Gratias
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Here's a word which I have never seen:
Approximative
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Ciao!
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Gratias
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or,...?
Minimizers. (Neither this word or Approximative are in the English Thesaurus).
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John Lane
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Gratias wrote: Minimizers. (Neither this word or Approximative are in the English Thesaurus).
"Minimizers" I've come across before, but "Approximative" is a pearl. I think it might be worth hunting down the lair from which it sprang to see whether it was somewhere in the Black Forest.
But no, neither is the word I had in view. I am confident, however, on this showing that you are destined to notice it. 
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Gratias
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Good morning again, John
How about this:
Inconfusibility (whew! seven syllables)
Marilyn
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Gratias
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And, this must be the longest word :
Incircumscriptibility
All together now: EIGHT syllables. I'm sure I've never seen it anywhere.
Has anyone else? But don't help me yet.
Marilyn[/u]
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John Lane
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Gratias wrote: And, this must be the longest word :
Incircumscriptibility
All together now: EIGHT syllables. I'm sure I've never seen it anywhere. Has anyone else? But don't help me yet.
Marilyn
No, they are both direct from the Latin technical theology terms. 
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Brian Kenny wrote: Approximative \Ap*prox"i*ma*tive\, a. [Cf. F. approximatif.] Approaching; approximate. -- {Ap*prox"i*ma*tive*ly}, adv. -- {Ap*prox"i*ma*tive*ness}, n. [1913 Webster]
One has to love Codex.
 Webster. Actually, I have a Webster's here that is almost a foot thick. It is truly astonishing that there are so many words in one language (or should I say, one variant of one language!).
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Mr. Lane,
I may not be the first to find the "magic" word, but I do have to say that I am learning so much and this manual is an answer to prayers. It is so easy to read and fairly easy to understand. I know I will read this more than once.
I wish I could help you in your work--I have plenty of time...
Anyway, thank you and may God continue to bless you and your family.
Annie
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Quote: Actually, I have a Webster's here that is almost a foot thick.[/b]
Mr. Lane, do you still use English units in the privacy of your home? Is that common in Australia? 
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Gratias
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Perhaps in Volume Two?
Note: ratiocination is not in the document. Not yet anyway.
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Gratias
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Dear John,
Although it is too obvious, Wilhelm and Scannell give
the definition in using the word trowing, i.e.,
"...trowing, trusting (Germ. trauen)..." and it is a rare
much-obscure English word, yet not a long one, and it
is dared to claim that few have heard or used it. It fits
your criteria, almost.
Marilyn
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veiledwoman
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I've seen ratiocination twice already.... 
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John Lane
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Gratias wrote: ... the word trowing, i.e., "...trowing, trusting (Germ. trauen)..."
The word I'm thinking of looks plainly English. But plainly, a German mind invented it. 
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John Lane
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veiledwoman wrote: Mr. Lane,
I may not be the first to find the "magic" word, but I do have to say that I am learning so much and this manual is an answer to prayers. It is so easy to read and fairly easy to understand. I know I will read this more than once.
I wish I could help you in your work--I have plenty of time...
Anyway, thank you and may God continue to bless you and your family.
Annie
Dear Annie,
Thank you for your kind comments.
If you had a copy of one of these manuals, and a scanner, you could certainly assist. Indeed, anybody who has access to a theology book and a scanner is most welcome to help. I have been particularly busy for the past few weeks and haven't been able to get much done.
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Alessio Larrabee wrote: Quote: Actually, I have a Webster's here that is almost a foot thick.[/b] Mr. Lane, do you still use English units in the privacy of your home? Is that common in Australia? 
Yes.
You know, I think a formative experience for me was standing at my father's side in a farm store in Morawa and hearing him ask for a tape measure ("rule"?) marked with Imperial units. He was informed that it was illegal to sell them - even those marked with both metric and Imperial units. I must have been six or seven years old, but I will never forget the impression of tyranny that I felt. That law was manifestly unjust, unnecessary, and really puerile. I don't know whether my father was upset - I don't recall - but I learned something about modern government which many experiences have since confirmed. We live under Socialist tyranny. All of us.
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Gratias
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Not giving up yet,
desynonymization,
It appears English, but comes from the Greek.
I get a no on this one. Quite a puzzle.
Marilyn
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John Lane
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Gratias wrote: Not giving up yet,
desynonymization,
It appears English, but comes from the Greek. I get a no on this one. Quite a puzzle.
Marilyn
Oh my goodness! YOU'VE GOT IT!!!! Well done Marilyn.
And in case anybody wishes to pursue the study of this arcane art: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q ... idge&meta=
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Marilyn!!!
Hats off to you! God Bless you and your diligence. The suspense was killing me, not that I'd ever have been bright enough to find it! Are you by chance also an amazing Scrabble player?
Love to All, Elizabeth
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Gratias
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Thank you John,
Thank you Liz, and all,
We all were dying to know. The word is in Chapter II near the end.
But not so savvy was I in searching the works of the wrong Coleridge.
I fancy Henry James Coleridge. Who never used the word in his
discussions/sermons.
Marilyn
P.S. yes to scrabble; winning challenges was somewhat a forte.
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Any hope that we will get more of this manual?
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John Lane
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veiledwoman wrote: Any hope that we will get more of this manual?
Yes. 
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 The Divine Life - now posted
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John Lane
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John Lane wrote: The Divine Life
Anybody read this section? It's very lengthy but well worth it. Absolutely beautifully written, and what could be more fascinating than the inner life of God?
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Pax Christi !
Quote: Anybody read this section? It's very lengthy but well worth it. Absolutely beautifully written, and what could be more fascinating than the inner life of God?
A pearl of great price to be sure ! I have to read it in small increments, my brain gets over loaded quickly regarding this subject.
Many thanks for taking the time to post this !
In Xto,
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