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Here is Cardinal Pie, reassuring us that what we are living through has all been prophesied and reminding us what our central duty must be in these dark days:

It is certain that as the world draws towards its end the wicked and the seducers will increasingly have the upper hand.

Faith will hardly be found any longer on earth, that is to say that it will have all but completely disappeared from the institutions of this world.

Even believers will scarcely dare to profess their beliefs publicly and collectively.

The scission, the separation, the divorce of societies from God, which is given by St Paul as a sign of the approaching end (“nisi venerit discessio primum”) will become each day more absolute.

The Church, though of course still a visible society, will be increasingly reduced to individual and domestic proportions. She who in her young days cried out: “the place is strait, give me room wherein to dwell,” will see every inch of her territory under attack. Surrounded on all sides, as the other centuries have made her great, so the last will strive to crush her. And finally the Church on earth will undergo a true defeat: “and it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them.” (Apocalypse 13:7) The insolence of evil will be at its peak.

Now in this extremity, what will be the remaining duty of all true Christians, of all men of faith and courage?

The answer is this: spurred on to ever greater vigour by the apparent hopelessness of their predicament, they will redouble their ardour in prayer, their energy in works and their courage in combat so that their every word and work cries out together:

“Oh God, our Father, who art in Heaven,
Hallowed by Thy Name, on earth as it is in Heaven,
Thy Kingdom come, on earth as in Heaven,
The Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven
Sicut in coelo…et in terra!”

And they shall still be murmuring these words as the earth is snatched from beneath their feet. And just as of old, after a comparable calamity, the Roman Senate and every rank of the state once went forth to greet the conquered consul [Varro] on his return and honour him for not despairing of the Republic (“quod de re publica non desperasset”), so shall the celestial senate, all the choirs of the angels and all the ranks of the Blessed come out to welcome the generous athletes who have continued the combat to the end, hoping against hope itself, “contra spem in spem” (Romans 4:17)

Cardinal Pie (1815-1880)

Unfortunately I have never had the complete reference for this magnificent passage, quoted by professor Chabot and Commandant Rouchette in their 1985 study L'Abomination de la Désolation

Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:52 am

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Dear John D.,

Wonderful quote.

John L., can you post, once again, that great text from Father S. Berry in this thread?


Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:18 am

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I copied this from John Lane's post..thanks John!...............Lance

“The prophecies of the Apocalypse show that Satan will imitate the Church of Christ to deceive mankind; he will set up a church of Satan in opposition to the Church of Christ. Antichrist will assume the role of Messias; his prophet will act the part of Pope, and there will be imitations of the Sacraments of the Church. There will also be lying wonders in imitation of the miracles wrought in the Church.” (Rev. E. Sylvester Berry, D.D., The Church of Christ, An Apologetic and Dogmatic Treatise. Herder, St. Louis and London, 1927 & 1941. p. 119)

And, “there seems to be no reason why a false Church might not become universal, even more universal than the true one, at least for a time.” (op cit. p.155)

Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:26 pm
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John Daly wrote:
Here is Cardinal Pie, reassuring us that what we are living through has all been prophesied and reminding us what our central duty must be in these dark days: ...

What an absolutely stunning passage, John. Why have you been hiding this from us? :)

Lance, no problem, and thanks for re-posting it.

In Christ our King.

Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:48 pm
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I was not hiding the text from Cardinal Pie, John L, I was waiting to find time to translate it :-)

Here is another, from an author appreciated by every Catholic worthy of the name, which I have just translated:

Dom Guéranger:

"No violence is done to man's freedom. The divine Spirit allows man to try all, but He continues to accomplish His mission. Let there be a 4-year vacancy of the Holy See, let anti-popes arise, sustained by popular favour in some quarters and by feebleness in others; let a long schism leave doubtful the legitimacy of several Pontiffs...the Holy Ghost will allow the trial to run its course, strengthening meanwhile the faith, hope and charity of the faithful: at length, at the appointed time, He will bring forth His chosen one whom the whole Church will receive with acclamation."

Jesus Christ, King of History

Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:33 pm

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Pax Christi !

Dear John Daly,

I am joyfully speechless reading this passage ! Such, Faith, Hope and Charity for these dark times !

In Xto,

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Re: Cardinal Pie: WHY are these treasures kept hidden from the generality of Catholics!?!?!?

God, in Heaven!!!!!

Edit: Fixed misspelling

Kenneth G. Gordon CinC
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This is what I have always thought the Third Secret of Fatima was about. (like many others, no doubt).

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